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I need help with Sleeping pills.?

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  1. I live in the UK and I need to know about sleeping pills.
    I definitely need them, but I need something strong. Should I visit my Doctor and get a prescription or is something over the counter strong enough and what would it be?

    I've heard people use: Valium, Xanax or Ambien, but I don't know if they are available here or over the counter. As I said, I definitely need them as lack of sleeping is affecting my life and has been for a while now. And of course I would be extra careful with them as I know they can be dangerous and addictive.

    What could my Doctor give me? Or what could I get over the counter?
    I've tried to avoid having them for 2 years and I've obviously tried a lot to cure this. It's more than just tossing and turning at night. It's affecting my quality of life and I need to try sleeping pills. I've tried herbal ones and I drink Green or Peppermint tea a lot. They do not help me to sleep.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. Mathieu
    Member

    Best Answer

    Sleeping pills won't kill you, most of them are safer than Panadol in an overdose.

    On the NHS they have the drug Zopiclone (UK brand name Zimovane) for insomnia. It is a very good drug, it works well for the majority of people, and it has an excellent safety record.

    Valium (diazepam), Xanax (alprazolam), Ambien/Stilnox (zolpidem), and Zimovane require a prescription. They are all class C drugs, so they do have a small potential for abuse however it is not common, especially if you do not have a history of drug/alcohol abuse. Ambien (might have a different UK brand name, perhaps Stilnox) and it (along with Xanax) are not available on the NHS but a private doctor can prescribe them. Zimovane and Ambien are "Z" drugs and they are very effective for sleep Xanax and Valium are benzodiazepines. Although most benzodiazepines can be sedating most are not appropriate to be used for sleep. Valium, for example, will alter you sleep architecture (brain waves when you sleep), as will most benzodiazepines. Temazepam is the biggest exception, it is a very effective hypnotic however it has a very unfavourable reputation in The UK. The only benzodiazepines available on NHS are Valium and the older, rarely used, Librium.

    Avoid any over the counter medications, they are just antihistamines that happen to be sedating. But they are not particularly effective and are best for people who have a problem sleeping for a night or two on occasion. You really should be evaluated by a doctor and he can prescribe the best treatment for YOU. What works for other people may not the best.

    Zimovane is probably your best option, especially on NHS. If a doctor offers you a drug like Valium ask about a "Z" drug instead because they have little impact on sleep architecture (most GP's don't know a lot about sleep architecture). I have taken it several times personally and it worked well, it should be available in 5 and 7.5 mg tablets. The 7.5 mg tablets are the typical dose for healthy adults.

    Keep in mind a few things- hypnotics are safe and won't kill you unless you mix them with other drugs. The idea that sleeping pills kill is a remanent from when barbiturates were commonly used.

    It is best to take hypnotics short term (5-14 days) but some people will benefit from long term use and "Z" drugs have shown to work well long term. However long term use is controversial, especially in The UK, probably the most hostile country towards sedative/hypnotics.

    Addiction can occur from using certain drugs but the risk is extremely low.

    And hypnotics are fine to use, they are not "bad" drugs. Insomnia can cause major problems for people and treatment is required in some cases. Sleep deprivation can cause almost any problem and costs billions in lost productivity every year in every country. Some might have a harsh attitude towards hypnotics but don't be taken in by those people.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. aungnayoo
    Member

    For me I meditate if I cannot sleep.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. L'amour
    Member

    That pills aren't good, you should not consume them, or you could die. Try drinking a cold glass of water, washing your feet with cold water, or/and sleeping naked, when I cant sleep I take off my clothes, or/and do the rest of the things I told you. I like to hear music to sleep like: Deva Premal, Enya, Era, Hufeisen, Tibet Waterbone...etc. something that can also help is to practice a sport, you can also put a cucumber on the fridge for a while, then cut it on thin slices and place them on your eyes. I can't sleep after spending alot of time on the computer or forcing my sight, so I do that.

    TRY TO RELAX, maybe you aren't spending the enough time to your self! remember you are more important than the others. I recomend you a song that is named Some where over the rainbow by Norah Jones.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Catara
    Member

    You've probably been asked this already, but have you tried changing the environment you are in whilst you are trying to sleep? Some minor changes may help immensely, such as a quiet dark room, although I know it is difficult if not impossible to have ideal sleeping arrangements in today's hectic world. You might try an eye mask and ear plugs if it is safe to do so. Also, look at your caffeine intake. If you have too much in your system it can seriously change your sleeping patterns. Personally, I have stopped drinking coffee or sodas after 12:00 pm and I fall asleep faster and sleep sounder.

    If you must look for sleeping pills, I would not suggest any over the counter medications such as Tylenol/Advil/Excedrin... PM as a long term solution. For the occasional aches and pains, they have their uses, but long term can cause serious issues.

    As for prescribed medications, in my opinion, they cause more harm than cure. Studies have shown they merely make you think you have slept the night through, but in actuality, you are tossing and turning all night.

    A different, safer and cheaper route is holistic medicines. Holistic solutions include Valerian Root, Chamomile tea, Lavender tea, and Melatonin.

    In short, I would be wary of anything that "puts you to sleep". Rather, look for "sleep inducing" solutions.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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